To recede there is no place.
To recede there is no place.
Our readers already met on pages of "the Russian newspaper"
With Oleg Tolkachevym - the first assistant to the mayor in the government
Moscow, the head of the Complex on imushchestvenno-ground
To relations. Has passed hardly more than three months, interesting
The interlocutor again during "a business breakfast" in edition. And again at
Readers "RG" to it it is a lot of questions.
- You speak about successes of your department much. But why
Then at recent session of the government of Moscow Jury Luzhkov
Has dismissed your the first zama Vladimir Avekova for the ugly
Job on the property management organisation? Whether you feel
In it the share of fault? (Oleg Krutov, Moscow).
- When the mayor states claims to our system, I them
I accept, as I understand: he wants, that the system worked
It is better. To understand, whether job is effective today with
The city property, we will address to the facts. Last time I
Said, that from operations with capital property for the past year we
Have received 14,8 billion roubles at the 12,5 billion plan.
And it is literally last week it became known, that incomes
The Ministry of Property of the Russian Federation disposing of other, federal share
Property in Moscow, have made all 3,9 billion. There is a difference?
Within four-five years Moscow will start to receive on 100
Billions roubles a year from management of the real estate - approximately
Half of incomes of the city budget.
- Therefore also raise a rent on uninhabited premises?
- It will result nobody in ruin. At least because
The enterprises of a small-scale business occupying about half from 9
Millions square metres of the areas available for a city, pay
For them always 50 percent of the rent rate. And for the others
Accidents it is not expected: the market rent rate in Russia 200
Dollars for square metre, and at us the minimum rate - 14
Dollars. Well it will raise for 2 dollars - to 16 for square
Metre it is deadly? But the city will receive in the budget in addition
2,5 billion roubles. This money is very necessary to us, as at
Capitals now many social programs.
- Who and how defines the prices for the Moscow earth?
- Bulk sellings yet was not, as there is a project discussion
The city law with the conditional name "About land tenure and
To building in Moscow "in which frameworks the mechanism is fulfilled
Transactions. It is possible to consider as a reference point the price for the repayment of the right of rent
The earths which in a sense is an equivalent
Sales. Hectare in areas of mass building, for example in Southern
Butovo, costs approximately 200-300 thousand dollars (much depends from
Whether is an underground number, communications are how much developed and
Etc.). In city centre the earth is much more expensive. For example, a site
Along the Kutuzovsky prospectus between the Garden ring and Borodino
The bridge, opposite to the mayoralty, has been redeemed at the price of 5,5 million
Dollars for hectare. Quite reasonable price. After
The BRIDGE-BANK which has got it it was ruined, the earth have sold by auction for
6 million.
- In what an essence of disagreements of the Moscow authorities with federal at
Formation of rules of sale of the earth?
- In second article of the Law "About introduction in action Ground
The code of the Russian Federation "it is told, that the price of the ground area exposed
On sale, should be not above 30 tax rates
Accordingly for territory unit. For the same Southern Butovo
It is quite normal. But for the Kutuzovsky prospectus and others
The central areas it is not necessary. For what reason we should sell
The earth for some hundreds thousand dollars if really it costs
Millions? Price restriction "from above" in general antirynochno, it is closer
To socialist uravnilovke. Many paid attention To it
Governors of the developed central areas. But to their colleagues from the such
Huge territories, as Siberia and the Far East, and also
Small areas this problem at law discussion has seemed
Not the actual. However Moscow under no circumstances not
Is going to to sell the earth on cheap stuff. Therefore at us already
The reference in the Constitutional court in this occasion is prepared.
There is and more a way of the decision of a question: level of tax rates in
Hands of the subject of Federation. Here also we will raise it if it will be necessary.
By the way, we perfectly understand, who and what for "has pressed through"
"Restriction from above" - Herman Gref of which has touched that
Ground payments in Moscow for last year have appeared twice
Above, than in all Russia. And this year they again will be more:
We have planned to collect 8,5 billion roubles, and federal
The authorities - 6,5 billion. From such situation there are two exits.
It is possible to tighten the Russian system of job with the earth to
Capital level - but to it it is necessary to be engaged in detail. Therefore
Federal soldiers have preferred to try to lower our gathering. It will not turn out -
Moscow in insult will not give itself. We simply do not have superfluous earth, so
As now it is not necessary, as earlier, to count prirezku
Territories the Central Committee decision - at the expense of the Moscow area. Therefore
We try rachitelnee to use that is had.
- To what level you suggest to lift the tax rate?
- It will be possible to speak about it after Constitutional
The court will consider our reference and the first will be discussed at least
Variant of the Moscow law about which I already spoke. In
Dependences on when it will be accepted, will begin competitions on
To sale of the ground areas. I think, it will occur or in the end
This year, or in the following beginning.
- While above break spears concerning laws, below arrive
Easier: will fence zaborchikom a piece of city street, actually
Having privatised it, also reap a crop. At least so
Arrive bred in capital private parkovochnye structures.
Where you will park, there and then there is a person from the stretched
Hand also demands: pay! (Alexander Kidenis, Moscow).
- On city parkings there are taximetres. One business, if at
Hotels there is a barrier, you buy the ticket and receive the receipt.
To thicket of all under the pretext of parkovshchikov swindlers, which work
It is possible to make the certificate and a bandage.
- So not to pay?
- Not to pay.
- Well, good, it is swindlers. And if street grasps, for example,
The Federation Council? "RG" published the letter of inhabitants Big
Dmitrovka which neither to pass nor to drive to the native house - not
Security guards of senators pass.
- I can not be kept from the remark concerning the street name.
It is a pity, that deputies Mossoveta of 1992 in a revolutionary impulse
To relieve capital of signs of Soviet time have not spared and
The Pushkin... I opposed, spoke: misters if you want
To return all historical names of Moscow, please, not
Dissemble. Well it is fine, Pushkin is not pleasant to you, and has returned Big
Dmitrovka, is not pleasant Chekhov, let there will be Small Dmitrovka... Not
Repin, the good artist which name carried is pleasant
The remarkable area. So glance in the calendar and return also to it
The historical name - Suche a bog. Why you it is bashful
Have named its Marsh?
Now as a matter of fact. On the Big Dmitrovka long time of the main
The permanent repair, lasting was ten years complexity. The mayor on
To this occasion invited the head "Mosinzhstroja" Svirsky, and
Now repair is ended. Journey restrictions happen, only when
There are Federation Council actions. But here there's nothing to be done - it is necessary
To suffer or change apartment for other area.
- And here in Germany, when protection of new residence of Schrц?der
Began to stir to the greengrocery located there, the owner
Has promised to bring an action against the chancellor... As a result security service
Heads of the state it has been compelled to reconstruct system of protection with
The account of interests of a greengrocery and inhabitants of microdistrict.
- The Federation Council in the near future will move down from a present place
Residence. Already there is in this respect a commission decision, is defined
The new address. Now wait for the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation.
- And FSB Management across Moscow and the Moscow area is simple
Has partitioned off a barrier Big Kiselnyj a lane. Who gives
Permissions to similar actions?
- In all countries of special service have isolated territory,
Certain safety zone. If to recollect explosions near
Receptions of FSB which though have not put the big damage, becomes
Clearly, what for it is necessary. Especially after September events in
The USA, wars in Afghanistan, the Chechen Republic... The Another matter, that a place the such
To zone, for example, to Yasenevo or still somewhere far away - that it
To city, it to it did not stir. But it, alas, while only conversations...
- So separate structures manage now. And that will be,
When transition to self-management in a city will begin? Will not appear
Barriers between areas, the strip of conflicts will not begin at
To property sharing?
- Moscow has gone through it in the early nineties when was not
Any laws. And now and experience decent is available, and laws
Are written. First, under the federal law "About the capital status
The Russian Federation "all earth in the city of Moscow belongs to a city - behind an exception
Sites on which the supreme bodies of the state are located
The authorities. At differentiation of objects of the property on the municipal
And federal there are disputable moments, but not too it is a lot of them:
From 108 thousand hectares on which there is Moscow, a disagreement
Concern the objects located less than on one thousand of hectares,
That less than one percent from a total area. The property
Municipal union, area, to which periodically
The attention the head rajupravy from Presnya Alexander tries to draw
Krasnov, according to the law appears only when
It is constructed on money of this municipal union. Or,
For example, someone has presented to its municipality. Therefore conversations
Type: "give me Presnya, give that costs there", absolutely
Are senseless. It almost the same as though to come to the neighbour and
To demand to give its six-room apartment only on that
The basis, that at you all three-room.
- The government of Moscow is proud of that at us are protected
Foreign investments. It and really is good. Only why
Nothing protects the property of the ordinary Muscovite? At me was
Garage - with an electricity, protection near Ostankinsky beer factory,
But it has prevented building of monorail road. To us have paid
On one thousand dollars of indemnification and a distance on a cockleshell. Unless it
It is equivalent? For such money normal garage you will not buy. And a cockleshell
Again can prevent someone. Really it was impossible to arrive
Humanly and to give to all victims of a place in the many-storeyed
To capital parking place? (Nikolay Belikov, the veteran of the Second World War).
- Rule in Moscow just the such: if the city has taken away for the
Needs the earth under garage, the place is in exchange allocated in
Many-storeyed capital garage, and in step-by-step availability.
Therefore send me the letter and if the taken down garage was
It is officially issued, instead of it is spontaneously constructed, we will help. To
To regret, quite often happens, that the garage has not been registered, or
Once was, but owners of years 20 did not pay for the earth, and
Electricity stole from the next factory...
- 40 percent of uninhabited premises in our possession 7-9 on
Of Krasnostudenchesky journey have been transferred to the possession
The governments of Moscow. Long time Department state and
Municipal habitation did not register its rights, therefore these 248
Square metres the association of proprietors of habitation of the house was
It is compelled to contain for the money. TSZH has applied
To sell to it these premises: the law of a city of Moscow gives to it
The right of priority to their repayment. After that premises
bystrenko have issued and have sold other organisation. We ask to spend
Investigation of rough violation of our rights and law infringement.
(Association of proprietors of habitation "п?п п я -7").
- Question statement absolutely correct, the request lawful. I
It is ready to spend investigation.
- In the near future hotel reconstruction begins
"Moscow". It really requires under repair. But on February, 6th
Representative Luzhkov Shalva Chigirinsky has declared, that hotel
It will be razed to the ground, and on its place will construct
Five-stars hotel. All it looks like grandiose adventure
On impudent capture by mafia structures liked by Russians
Hotels. (Employees of hotel "Moscow", a surname we are afraid
To name).
- I learn darling Russian speech: all is - both a mafia, and impudent
Capture... Hotel "Moscow" cannot be taken down at least
Because it is an architecture monument. It can be only
It is reconstructed, and in that kind in what exists. Can
To be, will make still internal overlapping of a court yard, but only with
The consent of all bodies which are engaged in monuments. Will appear
Also the big modern underground parking, which there not
Easier to construct because of affinity of the underground. But the project is - difficult,
Road, but nevertheless it will pay off, there very prestigious place.
And it will be necessarily realised. Existing there
Problems with shareholders are now solved, all contracts on
Hotel reconstruction are signed.
- Whether will return sometime a former appearance liked by Muscovites and
The Filippovsky bakery glorified by writers that is
Almost opposite to the mayoralty? Now it carries the foreign name,
Visitors have a drink there kofeek with liquors and German apple
Pie, and the Austrian rolls... And here places to a bread loaf on
To the Old Russian recipe there was not. (Alexander Kozlov).
- The project of full reconstruction of a building on Tver, 14, where and
The Filippovsky bakery is located, is developed and already some times
It was discussed, but it is not accepted yet. Two problems are not solved: the investor
Also what to do with Nikolay Ostrovsky's Museum? Personally I consider, that
It needs to be left as the fact of our history. And to restore all
Bakery attributes, its former interiors. And here than to trade, it
Excuse, as they say, taste business. We want that or not,
There is an assortment internationalisation. Here personally to me not
The name "chupa-chups", apparently, that it is pleasant
Unnaturally for Russian. But children like these
Sweets! Not to struggle with them...
The conversation was conducted by Love pjatiletova.
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//* an information Source: the Russian newspaper, 20.05.02
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